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i think we'll be able to show our viewers, a cell where mr. nelson mandela spent so many years. there it is right there. awful conditions. he took president clinton there in march of 1998 on a tour. i remember that well. i was the white house correspondent for cnn at the time, and it was -- it was a moment that i'll never forget. but i'm going to show our viewers, the picture of the two of you, you and nelson mandela. you worked together. how many years were you in robben island prison together with him? >> well, nelson mandela spent a total of 27 years, that's well known through the world. i got a discount. i was in prison for 15 years, spending 13 of those on robben isla island. but it's not about the time that we spent there, but the time we spent there discussion, strategizing, looking at how the future ahead of us. you're talking about a small cell. the cells are small, but it contained a formidable, a very large, larger than life figure, but someone who was very humble, who loved life. those principles were well through the years. today we see nelson mandela, the principle
i think we'll be able to show our viewers, a cell where mr. nelson mandela spent so many years. there it is right there. awful conditions. he took president clinton there in march of 1998 on a tour. i remember that well. i was the white house correspondent for cnn at the time, and it was -- it was a moment that i'll never forget. but i'm going to show our viewers, the picture of the two of you, you and nelson mandela. you worked together. how many years were you in robben island prison together...
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that picture with him and mr. mandela there. so often we talk about the declean, it's irresistible for twitter users to post messages on the front pages from where they are. in south africa, we see many people posting coverages on the twitter accounts. the soweto had this good-bye, the united states th washington post had this image a nation's healer, into the prison cell on robin island from the daily telegraph, a simple image, 19 earnings 2013. i want to show you a report. a group gathered for their annual office party when the news of mr. mandela's party broke. they gathered around to watch the news on television. they came together and began to sing the south african national anthem. take a listen. so they said they all came together to began to share memories, all they had of nelson mandela at south africa there together at that holiday party. >> very moving indeed, joining us from london pouring in on social media. thank you. we appreciate it. >> for more cover annual on the life of nelson mandela, go to cnn.com/mandela. y
that picture with him and mr. mandela there. so often we talk about the declean, it's irresistible for twitter users to post messages on the front pages from where they are. in south africa, we see many people posting coverages on the twitter accounts. the soweto had this good-bye, the united states th washington post had this image a nation's healer, into the prison cell on robin island from the daily telegraph, a simple image, 19 earnings 2013. i want to show you a report. a group gathered...
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she said mr. mandela felt too form willal and mr. president was too formal and felt madiba was informal. >> i know you find that too. >> she called him grandfather. this sense of how they embrace him. >> rick stengel who co-authored mandela's biography, "long walk to freedom." did mandela like the first name given to him first day of school? >> of all time i spent with him, i don't remember everyone ever calling him nelson except for the queen and i wasn't there when that happened. it's funny. you were talking about it before. pfs a methodist school near qunu. had he a white african teacher. to go back to him growing up there. one of the reasons he had such great awareness with african history is his youth was not affected by any white powers or white government. he didn't experience any prejudice when he was growing up and one of the things that gave him great confidence. when i was with him, people almost always referred to him as madiba. it was a local name of a tribe in that particular region of the eastern cape. it was for an el
she said mr. mandela felt too form willal and mr. president was too formal and felt madiba was informal. >> i know you find that too. >> she called him grandfather. this sense of how they embrace him. >> rick stengel who co-authored mandela's biography, "long walk to freedom." did mandela like the first name given to him first day of school? >> of all time i spent with him, i don't remember everyone ever calling him nelson except for the queen and i wasn't...
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but mr. mandela held on this summer. by the time of his 95th birthday on july 18th, with crowds gathered outside his hotel room to sing to him, to celebrate his life, mr. mandela was described by then as responding to treatment and his doctors said he was steadily improving. by august, mr. mandela was breathing normally. and although he was still battling the lung infection that had hospitalized him in the first place, in august, he was -- excuse me, on the first of september, he was discharged from the hospital, so that he can continue to receive intensive care at home, in johannesburg. after he died at his home today in johannesburg, his home there is where south africans have gathered tonight to pay their respects. joining us now is nbc news africa correspondent, rohit, thank you very much for being with us. what can you tell us just about the scene where you are and the reaction there? >> reporter: well, rachel, a quite extraordinary picture behind us. it's 4:00 a.m. in the morning here in south africa and we have a
but mr. mandela held on this summer. by the time of his 95th birthday on july 18th, with crowds gathered outside his hotel room to sing to him, to celebrate his life, mr. mandela was described by then as responding to treatment and his doctors said he was steadily improving. by august, mr. mandela was breathing normally. and although he was still battling the lung infection that had hospitalized him in the first place, in august, he was -- excuse me, on the first of september, he was discharged...
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mandela. >> a solute from mr. nelson mandela, his wife winnie, greeting the people outside the fences of the prison. that is the man the world has been waiting to see. his first public appearance in nearly three decades. >> when nelson mandela walked free out of prison, the people of south africa were free. but when he walked out, everyone was walking on air, and it was a -- the most joyous moment of all our lives. >> today the majority of south africans, black and white, recognize that apartheid has no future. >> after 27 years, nelson mandela was free and south africa has taken its first steps towards democracy but those decades in prison took a toll on his health and his family. . >>> one of the saddest moments in my>>> one of the saddest mom in my life in prison was the death of my mother. she came a couple tough times to visit me, but the last time she came to see me, as she left i looked at her and she walked up. i have the feeling that i have seen her for the last time and that was the case. the shattering
mandela. >> a solute from mr. nelson mandela, his wife winnie, greeting the people outside the fences of the prison. that is the man the world has been waiting to see. his first public appearance in nearly three decades. >> when nelson mandela walked free out of prison, the people of south africa were free. but when he walked out, everyone was walking on air, and it was a -- the most joyous moment of all our lives. >> today the majority of south africans, black and white,...
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in the mind of mandela and bishop tutu, it was the wish. from outside and on the side of mr. mandela. that to continue our -- and echo them, would mean the destruction of this. it would mean to a civil war that no one would to go. >> as botha recalls, mandela's message of peace following years of action against apartheid, he made his famous speech that would lead to his imprisonment. >> he said that i have fought against one domination. and i have fought against black domination. i have cherished the idea of democratic and free society. all lift together and with equal opportunities. and then he concludes by saying this is the idea, i have to live for and to achieve. but it needs to be, it is an ideal for what i'm prepared to die. >> mandela was an icon, but he had a very human side, too, as botha would find out when he reached out to mandela during his presidential years. >> the second -- i think in march 1996 and got a message that he felt extremely lonely. so i phoned and he answered the phone. not the secretary. and i then conveyed my condolences and we -- to absorb this
in the mind of mandela and bishop tutu, it was the wish. from outside and on the side of mr. mandela. that to continue our -- and echo them, would mean the destruction of this. it would mean to a civil war that no one would to go. >> as botha recalls, mandela's message of peace following years of action against apartheid, he made his famous speech that would lead to his imprisonment. >> he said that i have fought against one domination. and i have fought against black domination. i...
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he thinks it's almost the official mandela film because the family and mr. mandela definitely approved of this film going forward. it took a long time for them to making >> yeah. initial, thanks so much. out of time. i've got to say though quickly, envictory tus was my favorite about the rugby world cup. my goodness. >> this movie is great, michael. this movie's great. >> i've got to check it out. i of check it out. did the love "invictus." good to see, initial. >> thanks again for watching "around the world," this special edition. "cnn newsroom" starts right now. >> right now, more americans are finding work. november job numbers are in, and the news is good. you're going to hear why the unemployment rate is so significant and what it says about the strength of the u.s. economic recovery. also right now, a treacherous storm is leaving a huge a huge section of the united states under a thick coat of ice. states of emergency are in effect from the texas to tennessee. other states are getting hit with heavy snow and bone-chilling temperatures. we'll take you t
he thinks it's almost the official mandela film because the family and mr. mandela definitely approved of this film going forward. it took a long time for them to making >> yeah. initial, thanks so much. out of time. i've got to say though quickly, envictory tus was my favorite about the rugby world cup. my goodness. >> this movie is great, michael. this movie's great. >> i've got to check it out. i of check it out. did the love "invictus." good to see, initial....
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mr. mandela became a living martyr. so he had the power beyond that. mr. gandhi was killed. dr. king was killed. he survived years beyond his imprisonment and became this huge global moral authority. and against the odds of being considered a terrorist. to go from considered a terrorist to moral authority, the most in the world world, i think about how long the world kept mr. mandela on the terrorist list, until july 2008. that's a source of shame to us. leadership led by the people like robinson and roger wilkins and holmes-norton. they laid the groundwork for his freedom. he always suppressed appreciation. >> may i ask you the last time you met with him and when you left if you got a sense that it would be the last time. >> it was difficult for him to hear at that time. he came to have a meeting. we took pictures together. we laughed. and i asked him about the farm where he finally was captured. and he said something interesting. he changed gears. he said, you know, that was the place i was captured. not full of regrets. and i didn't understand that. he said he became the comm
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it said welcome home mr. and mrs. mandela. there were a huge crowds here, more than 100,000 people, there was a huge parade. a lot of people we spoke to today found out about his death as they were leaving work, and seeing this marque. and for people here, his sit sit brought a bit of hope. a lot of people remember him riding by is pointing at the apollo theater. he just mentioned how his visit game hope. people just appreciated him making the stop, when he could have stop sod many other places. so certainly sadness, and a lot of fond memories coming from the people that were here those years ago. so jonathan -- what else is expected -- are there any events expected to happen at the apollo tonight? >> well, not tonight, like i said -- you just have started here. people are finally just stopping by, many people sharing memory as lot of people have stopped by to speak to us, and say i remember back in 1990 that we were standing -- we were here on top of the marque. some people remember being -- really at this point no sort of pl
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give us a thought or two about this remarkable man. >> well, mr. mandela was a warrior. he was one of the most courageous individuals i have ever worked with. he was a champion for freedom. he expanded democracy. he transformed south africa, the african continent, but he was really a leader, someone who was gracious when you were with him in person. back in 1993, i escorted him with one of my friends to the inaugural of bill clinton. he wanted to be here in the united states to witness that moment and of course, later, we all witnessed his inaugural in south africa, but he was a strong man, a determined man, but somebody who believed in unity, in peace and bringing people together, especially after spending so many years in prison. >> so many people around the world, including in the united states, they struggled to get rid of that apartheid regime and he eventually succeeded together with so many others who worked so hard to do it, and he inspired all of us. >> you know, back in the late 1970s, there were boycotts, of course, boycotting apartheid. many people on college
give us a thought or two about this remarkable man. >> well, mr. mandela was a warrior. he was one of the most courageous individuals i have ever worked with. he was a champion for freedom. he expanded democracy. he transformed south africa, the african continent, but he was really a leader, someone who was gracious when you were with him in person. back in 1993, i escorted him with one of my friends to the inaugural of bill clinton. he wanted to be here in the united states to witness...
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i said no, mr. mandela, you inspire us. so there was this unbelievable relationship between what was happening in america and what would happen in south africa. we would say from time to time the struggle in birmingham, the struggle in selma is inaccept raable from the struggle in sharpville. >> one of the reasons i wanted to talk to you today congressman was reading about and thinking about and trying to understand the importance of those decisions made by mandela and other apartheid leaders after sharpville, when they decided non-violence was not enough, they have been so committed to nonviolence, even in the face of incredible brutality, they needed some sort of military response as well. never ended up being the khai part of their response to apartheid, but they made that hard decision. how international were those discussions about the importance of non-violence and whether or not it was enough to overthrow governments and to change the world? >> here in america and around the world, there was ongoing discussion about
i said no, mr. mandela, you inspire us. so there was this unbelievable relationship between what was happening in america and what would happen in south africa. we would say from time to time the struggle in birmingham, the struggle in selma is inaccept raable from the struggle in sharpville. >> one of the reasons i wanted to talk to you today congressman was reading about and thinking about and trying to understand the importance of those decisions made by mandela and other apartheid...
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in immediately said to him, mr. mandela, you have to know that's microphone not a weapon. he said when i first saw it i thought it was a shotgun. we both laughed and a picture was taken. >> we saw that moment earlier in the broadcast. >> i think it's important we understand the context of mandela's release was in a global movement. you have maxine waters, harry bellafonte, people that created this movement of die vestment that set the climate who were ostracized for supporting a terrorist group. they took the risk politically here to fight to create that day that we consider triumphant. i don't think we should whitewash or sugarcoat the development of where handlea ended up being recorded by great in this country. >> that was an exceptional time in the world. when mandela was released in '90, gorbachev bringing down the soviet union and czechoslavkia and poland and china gave some economic freedom. historians will be writing of that year '89 and '90 great men coming on the world stage and changing oppression that had existed for so long. >> representative waters, you were
in immediately said to him, mr. mandela, you have to know that's microphone not a weapon. he said when i first saw it i thought it was a shotgun. we both laughed and a picture was taken. >> we saw that moment earlier in the broadcast. >> i think it's important we understand the context of mandela's release was in a global movement. you have maxine waters, harry bellafonte, people that created this movement of die vestment that set the climate who were ostracized for supporting a...
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mr. mandela's death comes at a period of deep unease, writes the new york tiles. the past year and a half, the country faces the most serious unrest provokeed by a wave of angry miner, a deadly response on part of police, messy leadership struggle and deepening fishers between south africa's ruler masters. members of the party have said mr. mandela's near saintly legacy from years of struggle has been eroded by a scramble of self enrich. . nelson mandela died with his family around him at a hospital. it was brought to us by the south african president. he was born in transic south africa. he moved to end the regime. the impact of his efforts reconciled generosity and to find the common ground between humanity's higher values and his own power. john carlin once described him and said he'll ultimately reach beyond south africa's borders. this coming to us from black borders. prior to doing so, mandela earned a bachelor's degree during which time he was elected onto the student's representative council and suspended from college for joining a protest boycott. he was
mr. mandela's death comes at a period of deep unease, writes the new york tiles. the past year and a half, the country faces the most serious unrest provokeed by a wave of angry miner, a deadly response on part of police, messy leadership struggle and deepening fishers between south africa's ruler masters. members of the party have said mr. mandela's near saintly legacy from years of struggle has been eroded by a scramble of self enrich. . nelson mandela died with his family around him at a...
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. >> there's mr. mandela, mr. nelson mandela. a free man taking his first steps into south africa. >> we have seen our political emancipation. liberate all of our people from the continues holds of poverty and other discrimination. never, never, and never again that this beautiful land will obtain the spirit, the oppression of one by another, can suffer the indignity to things to come of this world. >>> i have said it, the idea of a democratic and peaceful -- in which all people live together in harmony and with equal opportunity. this is an ideal which i hope to live for. and to go and see what, if need be, it is an ideal for which i am prepared to die. >> in the final years of mandela's life, private plans were being made between the government and military and his family as they were preparing for a fitting farewell for a man of his greatness. thousands, detailed accounts of his first ten days. i should say thousands are going to congregate, to get together to commemorate this great man. it's going to take ten days. it's a ver
. >> there's mr. mandela, mr. nelson mandela. a free man taking his first steps into south africa. >> we have seen our political emancipation. liberate all of our people from the continues holds of poverty and other discrimination. never, never, and never again that this beautiful land will obtain the spirit, the oppression of one by another, can suffer the indignity to things to come of this world. >>> i have said it, the idea of a democratic and peaceful -- in which all...
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mandela and mrs. mandela in the flat in london. it was a small apartment. we met and it was extraordinary. i was in the room with living history. i was in the presence of greatness. this man's humility about the combination, there is no question that nelson mandela was a man who embodied what martin luther king jr. talked about in referring to the spirit of the times. here was a man who was out of a sense of directioning history and those around him. a man who didn't presume to be the mouth piece for god. nevertheless spoke for millions of people not only in south africa, but around the world. the courage it took to for give south africa into its future. his love ethic that they spoke about was the predicate for the expansion of opportunity for africans who were black to join with africans who were white and others to forge the future of that nation. what's interesting as many criticize mr. obama here, president obama who was encouraged by him. i was at the white house when the film was screened. i had the opportunity to see barack obama introduce a film ab
mandela and mrs. mandela in the flat in london. it was a small apartment. we met and it was extraordinary. i was in the room with living history. i was in the presence of greatness. this man's humility about the combination, there is no question that nelson mandela was a man who embodied what martin luther king jr. talked about in referring to the spirit of the times. here was a man who was out of a sense of directioning history and those around him. a man who didn't presume to be the mouth...
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i am sure it has been updated since then, it said welcome mr. and mrs. mandela. it was a big moment, people were standing on top of the marque, so just a special moment for this community. also a lot of people coming off the subway, this is how they found out about his death. now i want to take a look at memorable speech, nelson mandela made while he was on a trip toening land. >> pockets.h i had deep that i could look at my pocket and see you there. >> in south africa, he was known affectionately as medeba. listen to a crowd say nateing the leader. ♪ ♪ nelson mandela the first black president of south africa has died. he was in prison for 27 years and negotiated an end to white minority rule. tonight people are celebrating his life, a crowd of people have been dance and singing in his memory for hours and that will continue president obama also honored mandell what's memory today. >> . >> he achieved more than could be expected of any man. today he has gone home. >> former president george w bush and former first lady lora bush are among those expressing con
i am sure it has been updated since then, it said welcome mr. and mrs. mandela. it was a big moment, people were standing on top of the marque, so just a special moment for this community. also a lot of people coming off the subway, this is how they found out about his death. now i want to take a look at memorable speech, nelson mandela made while he was on a trip toening land. >> pockets.h i had deep that i could look at my pocket and see you there. >> in south africa, he was known...
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it says "to mr. and mrs. mandela welcome home we love you we love you we love you". tonight the sign says "in memory of nelson mandela 1918-2013, he changed our world." and he certainly did. this evening, wolf, i have been going all throughout harlem and people have been telling me about their memories of nelson mandela. and even those who weren't old enough to remember him, coming here to harlem, they talked about studying him in school. and one young man saying, i didn't know anything about apartheid. i knew nothing about racism. one day we had this exercise in our class and someone taught me about nelson mandela. and it was then i knew that i had a voice. and that's the legacy that nelson mandela will leave on the world, wolf >> yes. he was released from prison in 1990, and he came to harlem not that long after. for that very important visit, don, thank you very much. we're joining now by cnn pioneer the veteran actor my former colleague bernard shaw who is here with us as well. bernie, thanks very much for coming in. you had a powerful interview in 1994 when you
it says "to mr. and mrs. mandela welcome home we love you we love you we love you". tonight the sign says "in memory of nelson mandela 1918-2013, he changed our world." and he certainly did. this evening, wolf, i have been going all throughout harlem and people have been telling me about their memories of nelson mandela. and even those who weren't old enough to remember him, coming here to harlem, they talked about studying him in school. and one young man saying, i didn't...
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mr. mandela chose not to flee and go elsewhere. he spent 27 years in prison. >> interestingly, too, martin luther king made an impact while living, but one could argue he's made a greater impact since he has been gone. nelson mandela made the impact while he was still with us. >> caller: near where i live here in southwest washington, it's been king memorial. every day, you are reminded of dr. king's presence and his impact. i think with mr. mandela, his c fact we were blessed to have him with us for 95 years. dr. king we lost as a man. yes, i think you are correct, mr. mandela, his influence in his own life has grown. you are correct. very astute observation. >> we want to thank you for sharing your insights and memories with us. wonderful to talk with you again on this very sad occasion. >> thank you so much. >> caller: thank you both. >> as we watch a live picture here again in johannesburg outside the mandela home, our coverage continues >>> back now, this is a live image of the statue of nelson mandela, outside the embassy in
mr. mandela chose not to flee and go elsewhere. he spent 27 years in prison. >> interestingly, too, martin luther king made an impact while living, but one could argue he's made a greater impact since he has been gone. nelson mandela made the impact while he was still with us. >> caller: near where i live here in southwest washington, it's been king memorial. every day, you are reminded of dr. king's presence and his impact. i think with mr. mandela, his c fact we were blessed to...
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mandela would simply not see a free south africa. and those who were in our 20s at the time, i thought by the time change came in south africa, we would be pretty old and not make a contribution to a democratic south africa. i thought it would be extremely bloody and conflict ridden. and we would inherit a country that would take time to heal and rebuild and just get people together again. i was convinced that it was never going to happen in -- in -- so soon. even by '85 i didn't think it would happen in the lifetime of many, many people who have played a good and leading role in building a democratic south africa. >> and nelson mandela was freed from prison in 1990 as inaugurated as president of south africa in 1994. thank you so much for joining us and reflecting on this important day. our deepest on dole lances to you and everyone in south africa on this huge, huge loss. he went on to become the ceo of the nelson mandela foundation, by the way. >>> joining us later today, i'll be edit sitting down and speaking with former presiden
mandela would simply not see a free south africa. and those who were in our 20s at the time, i thought by the time change came in south africa, we would be pretty old and not make a contribution to a democratic south africa. i thought it would be extremely bloody and conflict ridden. and we would inherit a country that would take time to heal and rebuild and just get people together again. i was convinced that it was never going to happen in -- in -- so soon. even by '85 i didn't think it would...
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mandela. we love you. we love you. we love you. that's because mr. mandela felt like he had a kinship with new york, friends here burg especially harlem. when many africans come to america for the first time, they come and live here in harlem. now the marquis says in memory of nelson mandela. he changed our world. i was going back over that visit in 1990 when he got off the plane. they said he was tired. they were worried about his health back then. he was 72 years old. the first thing he, did there were some little girls standing as he got off the plane with the african national congress flag and he got down and stooped there and he let them drape the flag over him and his wife winnie at the time and he spent a lot of time with him. even though he was tired he made a big impression. and he gathered his strength. >> there were at least 200,000 people out here. there were some people going through certain personal issues at that time. whether it was jobs, family. that he could spend 27 years of his life fighting for a cause that he believed in, we can
mandela. we love you. we love you. we love you. that's because mr. mandela felt like he had a kinship with new york, friends here burg especially harlem. when many africans come to america for the first time, they come and live here in harlem. now the marquis says in memory of nelson mandela. he changed our world. i was going back over that visit in 1990 when he got off the plane. they said he was tired. they were worried about his health back then. he was 72 years old. the first thing he, did...
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i mean i told bishop tutu i disagree with you and with mr. mandela because tutu is that way as well. but i respect you. so why can't you guys in the republican party bring that to the the fore? >> well, nelson mandela stood up against a great injustice and willing to pay a huge price for that and that's the reason he mourned today because of that struggle that he performed. you are right, what he was advocating for was not necessarily the right answer, but he was fighting against some great injustice. and i would make the argument that, you know, we have a great injustice going on right now in this country with an everincreasing size of government that is taking over and controlling people's lives. and obamacare is front and center in that. i agree with talking points, your points earlier which is the center focus of the 2014 election, must be obamacare. and all of its aspects and the cool thing about obamacare is it is not only bad for the economy and bad for people's health. it's also bad for freedom of conscience. it's bad on a whole varie
i mean i told bishop tutu i disagree with you and with mr. mandela because tutu is that way as well. but i respect you. so why can't you guys in the republican party bring that to the the fore? >> well, nelson mandela stood up against a great injustice and willing to pay a huge price for that and that's the reason he mourned today because of that struggle that he performed. you are right, what he was advocating for was not necessarily the right answer, but he was fighting against some...
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there is just a huge outpouring for mr. mandela and literally the world wants to be here. millions more will be watching on television around the world, social media will be swamped and perhaps overwhelmed by remembrances of mr. mandela, just a singular event that's going to take place here in south africa honoring the life of nelson mandela. >> it's a good opportunity to remind everybody what he did. i remember watching this weekend all the coverage in terms of teaching them what happened. ron allen, we appreciate it. >>> more people are signing up for obama care, but does that mean the website and the pr push are actually working? coming up, i'll speak with connecticut congressman rosa delauro. >>> also ahead, we've all complained about airport layovers but this one takes the cake. how did a man end up locked inside a dark, empty plane long after it landed? we'll explain. ♪ ♪ nothing says, "you're my #1 copilot," like a milk-bone biscuit. ♪ say it with milk-bone. if every u.s. home replaced one light bulb with a compact fluorescent bulb, the energy saved could ligh
there is just a huge outpouring for mr. mandela and literally the world wants to be here. millions more will be watching on television around the world, social media will be swamped and perhaps overwhelmed by remembrances of mr. mandela, just a singular event that's going to take place here in south africa honoring the life of nelson mandela. >> it's a good opportunity to remind everybody what he did. i remember watching this weekend all the coverage in terms of teaching them what...
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mandela, the secret service and security forces here are sfam with protecting with mr. mandela. this is not an unknown island. of course, anything is possible about the they are taking unprecedented steps to make sure the stadium is secure. the treats in the area near here will be closing down in a couple of hours and private vehicles will not be allowed anywhere near the stadium. it is expected to be an emotional day. the program has just been released and there will be remarks by several of mr. mandela's grandchildren and comments from a former political prisoner along with him who served 26 years on rob bin island and remarks from heads of states like president obama and leaders of brazil and china and cuba. cuba has been a long time friend of this country. unprecedented day and may rival the size of the funeral and services held for pope john paul ii, a huge day of celebration and security will be extremely tight and a lot of emotion from well wisher here and around the world. >> thank you, ron for that very important update. this weekend much of the subject talk centered ar
mandela, the secret service and security forces here are sfam with protecting with mr. mandela. this is not an unknown island. of course, anything is possible about the they are taking unprecedented steps to make sure the stadium is secure. the treats in the area near here will be closing down in a couple of hours and private vehicles will not be allowed anywhere near the stadium. it is expected to be an emotional day. the program has just been released and there will be remarks by several of...
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the thing about mr. mandela said they thought they were changing, but he was transforming, also because he went in with hatred wanting more violence and repudiation of the government, but he left there realizing that if he were to change, he had to put aside hatred and bitterness and he took on a role of forgiveness in order to do that. the hand of god had to be on your life to do that. you had to begin to understand your true purpose in life, what they labor as a terrorist or revolutionary, mr. mandela could see there was a greater plan. he became humble, gentle, firm, a leader that transcended south africa and all its bitterness and racism. you have to understand south africa was a tinderbox about to explode and many of the people in the movement wanted him to take their home, take their land, destroy white people, kill white people. he said no. there will be none of that. they are just as much a part of this country as we are. we will work together. we will pray together and we will build a better sou
the thing about mr. mandela said they thought they were changing, but he was transforming, also because he went in with hatred wanting more violence and repudiation of the government, but he left there realizing that if he were to change, he had to put aside hatred and bitterness and he took on a role of forgiveness in order to do that. the hand of god had to be on your life to do that. you had to begin to understand your true purpose in life, what they labor as a terrorist or revolutionary,...
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mandela's. my husband was a pat, pan african congress, mr. mandela was founder of anc, african national congress, others south african national union. i was used to those men and a few women shouting and screaming at each other. they were really arch rivals. when mr. mandela came, he didn't raise his voice. he didn't argue with anybody. he didn't put anybody down. they were rivals. i had never met a south african who wasn't shouting and really angry all the time. i know he was angry, but he didn't use his energy foolishly. so it was a year after that he was imprisoned. i became friends with his wife then, winnie mandela. and we continued to support each other over the years and over the oceans. and she would tell me how he was. he wasn't vitt uperative with t guards. i was part of hillary clinton's delegates when he was inaugurated. i sat there and watched the guards, who had guarded him for 27 years, sitting in the right sights, in the best seats, invited by mr. mandela. not to say look how you treated me. i'm free now and i can ya ya ya at
mandela's. my husband was a pat, pan african congress, mr. mandela was founder of anc, african national congress, others south african national union. i was used to those men and a few women shouting and screaming at each other. they were really arch rivals. when mr. mandela came, he didn't raise his voice. he didn't argue with anybody. he didn't put anybody down. they were rivals. i had never met a south african who wasn't shouting and really angry all the time. i know he was angry, but he...
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gwen: and -- we remember nelson mandela. >> there's mr. mandela, mr. nelson mandela, a free man taking his first steps into a new south africa. gwen: covering the week, jackie calmes of the "new york times," michael fletcher of "the washington post," and david wessel of "the wall street journal." >> award-winning reporting and analysis covering history as it happens. live, from our nation's capitol, this is "washington week" with gwen ifill. corporate funding for "washington week" is provided by -- we know inw-up, cyber world, threats are always evolving. we were protecting networks, then we were protecting the transfer of data, today, it's evolved to , finance, and military missions. constantly innovating to advance the front line in the cyber battle wherever it takes us. of performance. northrop grumman. additional corporate funding for "washington week" is provided by prudential. providedl funding is annenbergndation foundation, corporation for broadcasting and contributions to your pbs station from viewers like you. thank you. once again, live from
gwen: and -- we remember nelson mandela. >> there's mr. mandela, mr. nelson mandela, a free man taking his first steps into a new south africa. gwen: covering the week, jackie calmes of the "new york times," michael fletcher of "the washington post," and david wessel of "the wall street journal." >> award-winning reporting and analysis covering history as it happens. live, from our nation's capitol, this is "washington week" with gwen ifill....
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president obama describing mr. mandela as a giant of history. >> it took a man like madiba to free not just the prisoner but the jailer, as well. to show that you must trust others so that they may trust you to teach that will reconciliation is not a matter of ignoring a cruel past but a means of confronting it with inclusion and generosity and truth. he changed laws, but he also changed hearts. >> president obama getting a warm welcome there will attending the memorial service with three of his predecessors. you see them there, george w. bush, bill clinton and jimmy carter. the leaders of more than 90 countries in attendance there. >> president obama surprised a lot of people when he shook hands with the cuban president raul castro. you see it there. a rare gesture between the u.s. and cuba which have had pretty strained relations for the last half century or so. we're already getting reaction from cuba. we're going to get to the significance of that handshake and how it is being viewed in a moment. but first want
president obama describing mr. mandela as a giant of history. >> it took a man like madiba to free not just the prisoner but the jailer, as well. to show that you must trust others so that they may trust you to teach that will reconciliation is not a matter of ignoring a cruel past but a means of confronting it with inclusion and generosity and truth. he changed laws, but he also changed hearts. >> president obama getting a warm welcome there will attending the memorial service with...
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except mr. mandela. i find him outstanding. being terribly cool and relaxed. that's the first time i met him. again, i met mr. mandela in his office, in his law office in johannesburg in 1952 where he posed for me for a photograph in front of his desk. again, i found i had this impression of him being a very relaxed and self controlled person. >> i want to go back to the first picture we showed. i understand it is your favorite. it is of mandela in his cell on robben island in 1994. voted one of the most memorable images of the 20th century. give us insight into this moment. if you spoke with him or what he was thinking at that moment. >> it is very difficult for me to know what he was thinking. i imagine that at that time, he had spent 17 years in this cell. i asked him if he would stand against the window and look out through the bars. he did that for me. i photographed a number of pictures of him standing looking out. there was a moment of total quietness and it was a very thoughtful moment. i noticed the different frames i shot as the expressions changed f
except mr. mandela. i find him outstanding. being terribly cool and relaxed. that's the first time i met him. again, i met mr. mandela in his office, in his law office in johannesburg in 1952 where he posed for me for a photograph in front of his desk. again, i found i had this impression of him being a very relaxed and self controlled person. >> i want to go back to the first picture we showed. i understand it is your favorite. it is of mandela in his cell on robben island in 1994. voted...
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this is not unexpected given mr. mandela's house. we might ask now how are south africans reacting? >> reporter: richard, news of nelson mandela's death was announced just before midnight. so inevitably still today many of south africans are still learning the news that the father of this nation passed away during the evening. here his suburban home in johannesburg many hundreds of people have come. the mood here is not somber at all, though. there have been very few people here in tears. people have come to celebrate his life and the lives that they've been able to achieve and to live as a result of his sacrifice. people here also wondering precisely what happens next, and we're awaiting details in the next few hours about a lying in state and about nelson mandela's burial, which once diplomats are saying that the plan resembled the biggest state funeral for any former leader south of winston churchill. >> thank you. rohi for us in south africa. now to nbc's brian williams with a look at mandela's incredible life and unwavering spirit. >> to deny any person human rights is the chal
this is not unexpected given mr. mandela's house. we might ask now how are south africans reacting? >> reporter: richard, news of nelson mandela's death was announced just before midnight. so inevitably still today many of south africans are still learning the news that the father of this nation passed away during the evening. here his suburban home in johannesburg many hundreds of people have come. the mood here is not somber at all, though. there have been very few people here in tears....
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your thoughts on nelson mandela. caller: mr. mandela was a man of peace. of forgiveness -- a man forgiveness. a man of inspiration to millions of people around the world. that the truly sad same cannot be said about the man who spoke about earlier today from the white house. noson mandela had divisiveness. he had no enemies. he had -- he did not desire to cause division. barack obama is low. nelson mandela -- host: thank you for your calls. lots of reactions from the former president, george w. bush issuing a statement. -- president obama shortly after the announcement of nelson mandela's death spoke to reporters on his thoughts on the passing of nelson mandela. >> at his trial in 1964, nelson mandela close to statement saying i have fought against white domination. i have fought against black domination. ahave cherished the ideas of democratic and free society in which all persons live together with equal opportunities. it is an ideal which i will hope to live for and to achieve. if needs be, it is an idea for which i'm prepared to die. nelson mandela liv
your thoughts on nelson mandela. caller: mr. mandela was a man of peace. of forgiveness -- a man forgiveness. a man of inspiration to millions of people around the world. that the truly sad same cannot be said about the man who spoke about earlier today from the white house. noson mandela had divisiveness. he had no enemies. he had -- he did not desire to cause division. barack obama is low. nelson mandela -- host: thank you for your calls. lots of reactions from the former president, george w....
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mandela's mind at this moment. an indescribable moment. his walk to freedom after year in the robin island prison. he stepped into the waiting arms of his family and the joyous expectations of an entire country. >> i cherish the idea of a new soh . >> reporter: mandela not only became the first south african black president, but he won the nobel peace prize after putting aside his feelings for his former jailers and inviting them home. >> i have fought against the white domination, and i have fought very firmly against that domination. >> reporter: nelson mandela's given name translates as troublemaker. it was a teacher who changed it to nelson as the young mandela grew up if a privileged home and was first a lawyer, representing blacks forced off their land, but his nonviolent apartide opposition ended foo after 69 peaceful black protesters were slaughtered by the police in what was knowns at sharkville massacre. >> there's many people who feel it's fruitless for us to continue to talk about peace and nonviolence. >> reporter: mandela was
mandela's mind at this moment. an indescribable moment. his walk to freedom after year in the robin island prison. he stepped into the waiting arms of his family and the joyous expectations of an entire country. >> i cherish the idea of a new soh . >> reporter: mandela not only became the first south african black president, but he won the nobel peace prize after putting aside his feelings for his former jailers and inviting them home. >> i have fought against the white...
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some other world leaders who plan to attend for mr. mandela are the u.n. secretary-general ban ki-moon, david cameron, prince charles is going. the french president, francois hollande and even the cuban president, as we said he had ties with cuba in the past, raul castro, list goes on and on of dignitaries. >> of course, with president obama and three of his predecessors going to south africa, you can imagine what robin was talking about, and that is security and the kind of complex situation they're dealing with potentially a nightmare. secret service had very little time to prepare for the trip. athena jones is joining us at the white house. we're very much aware of what it takes. there's not a lot of advance work when you have the limited amount of time. air force one expected to touch down what, early tomorrow morning? >> early tomorrow morning. i think about 1:00 a.m., they'll be making a fuel stop on the way. bottom line, these are the kinds of trips that take weeks and months to prepare. this was compressed into a very short time line. the spokesman
some other world leaders who plan to attend for mr. mandela are the u.n. secretary-general ban ki-moon, david cameron, prince charles is going. the french president, francois hollande and even the cuban president, as we said he had ties with cuba in the past, raul castro, list goes on and on of dignitaries. >> of course, with president obama and three of his predecessors going to south africa, you can imagine what robin was talking about, and that is security and the kind of complex...
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mr. christie for re-election two weeks before the toll booths shut down, and that mayor's town got forcibly gridlocked into a complete standstill." new jersey governor chris christie was never going to lose his re-election last month. the question was not whether he was going to win but by how much. he even moved a special election for a u.s. senate seat to a day when he would not have to be on the ballot with a popular democrat so as to not risk shrinking his margin of victory, didn't want to run on the same day that new jersey was going to pick newark mayor cory booker as their new democratic u.s. senator. governor christie's decision to hold that election on a separate-day from his own recoronation cost the state millions of dollars. chris christie made that decision, even though he led the governors race by double digits the whole way. on his way to his second term, chris christie got support from dozens of leading new jersey democrats, including lots and lots of local mayors, but he
mr. christie for re-election two weeks before the toll booths shut down, and that mayor's town got forcibly gridlocked into a complete standstill." new jersey governor chris christie was never going to lose his re-election last month. the question was not whether he was going to win but by how much. he even moved a special election for a u.s. senate seat to a day when he would not have to be on the ballot with a popular democrat so as to not risk shrinking his margin of victory, didn't...
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but george wh bush welcomed nelson mandela to any white house for the first time. >> mr. mandela in the eyes of million around the world you stand against apartheid, against a system that bases the rights and freedoms of citizenship on the basis of one's skin. that is repugnant to the ideals we in america hold so dear. >> reporter: he calls mandela the man who enbodies the hope of millions, and said apartheid must end. >> to receive the support of any government is in our situation something of enormous importance, but to receive the support of the government of the united states of america, the leader of the world is something beyond words. >> reporter: this support helped mandela politically. >> and defend the constitution of the united states. >> reporter: but when bill clinton was elected the relationship grew personal. mandela made numerous trips to the u.s. including soon after his election as president of south africa. and president clinton traveled to south africa and visited the jail cell mandela called home. >> he is a ferociously loyal friend. >> reporter: mand
but george wh bush welcomed nelson mandela to any white house for the first time. >> mr. mandela in the eyes of million around the world you stand against apartheid, against a system that bases the rights and freedoms of citizenship on the basis of one's skin. that is repugnant to the ideals we in america hold so dear. >> reporter: he calls mandela the man who enbodies the hope of millions, and said apartheid must end. >> to receive the support of any government is in our...
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mr. newman made it home yet? >> he hasn't. he has not come home. apparently they have some alternative arrangements in place. he landed a couple hours ago at the san francisco international airport. he looked terrific. he seemed to be in good spirits. this is a guy who is 85 years old who had been in custody since the end of october and this is what he said just moments after landing. >> good morning. i'm delighted to be home. i want to thank the swedish i'm ba embassy in bong yaponyongyang a british embassy. i'm tired but i'm ready to be with my family now. and thank you all for the support we got and very much appreciate it. >> well, mr. newman was an intelligence officer during the korean war and did some top secret work. apparently he had a burning desire to go back. and it's clear a he said the wrong thing to someone and he was taken into custody, as you said, he was accused of war crimes. no one knew what was going to happen to him. he did give this sort of stilted apology a few day
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and so i'm glad that mr. cruz has been inspired by mr. mandela. i think he ought to be instructed by president mandela. the fact is that if you play to the french, if the mainstream goes out of its way to coddle the fringe, the fringe will become the mainstream and you'll find yourself sewn up in a bag that's difficult even for you to escape. this is not the first time we've heard these kinds of words, marxist, socialist, communist, terrorist. we've heard these ugly labels, if you will, code words aimed at another black president, president obama, who i think paid a moving and powerful tribute to nelson mandela, who inspired president obama and inspires all of us. >> you said that you hope senator cruz is instructed by mandela's legacy. in what way? >> i think as the president talked this morning about the fact that our work continues, it is not incredibly difficult to pay hommage to the movement and making south africa strong, unified, democratic and nonracist society that president mandela talked about continues, but this work continues as the p
and so i'm glad that mr. cruz has been inspired by mr. mandela. i think he ought to be instructed by president mandela. the fact is that if you play to the french, if the mainstream goes out of its way to coddle the fringe, the fringe will become the mainstream and you'll find yourself sewn up in a bag that's difficult even for you to escape. this is not the first time we've heard these kinds of words, marxist, socialist, communist, terrorist. we've heard these ugly labels, if you will, code...
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mr. assume ma, the president of south africa said the mr. mandela's death is greatest sorrow. this is president speaking of mandela's family. so much our people would be free. very emotional words from the president of south africa. melissa: here is president obama. let's listen in. >> nelson mandela closed statement from the dock saying, i have fought against white domination. and i have fought against black domination. i have cherished the ideal of a democratic and free society in which all persons live together in harmony and with equal opportunities. it is an ideal which i hope to live for and to achieve. but if needs be, it is an ideal for which i am prepared to die. nelson mandela lived for that ideal and he made it real. he achieved more than could be expected of any man. today he has gone home and we've lost one of the most influential, courageous an profoundly good human beings that any of us will share time with on this earth. he no longer belongs to us. he belongs to the ages. through his fierce dignity and unbending will, to sacrifice his own freedom for the freedo
mr. assume ma, the president of south africa said the mr. mandela's death is greatest sorrow. this is president speaking of mandela's family. so much our people would be free. very emotional words from the president of south africa. melissa: here is president obama. let's listen in. >> nelson mandela closed statement from the dock saying, i have fought against white domination. and i have fought against black domination. i have cherished the ideal of a democratic and free society in which...
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mandela's story. mr. speaker, between 1986 and 1990 the right honorable gentleman, myself and peter pike, the former member for burnly, made three visits to south africa at the invitation of the followers of christ working for a peaceful resolution of the situation there. on our return from our first visit, we made joint speech speeches in a debate here in the house of commons on june the 17th referring to each other as our honorable friends, a point dually note -- duly noted by -- [inaudible] we had gone together, safety in numbers, at a time when the anc was still banned, the political situation deteriorating, violence abroad and where the isolation of south africa was impacting on the flow of anything. we found and were able to report back to our respective party leaders, and i had half an hour with an anxious, worried and very uncertain margaret thatcher. we reported back on the tragic success of apartheid in separating one person from another, on the urgency of the need for change to avoid a looming
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congresswoman lee removed him from the list in 2008 a month before mr. mandela turned 90. live in oak labd, stephanie chuang, nbc bay area news. >> thank you. >>> willie brown, former mayor of san francisco met mandela at the rally in oakland and his meeting with mandela is a treasured memory. brown says this photo of the meeting is one of his favorites. >> mr. mandela inspired me as i suspect he has inspired many people to do what you think is the right thing to do. maybe not political, because i don't think nelson mandela was ever really political. >> and before being mayor of san francisco, brown spent 30 years in the assembly and was speaker in 1986. that is when california became the largest government in the united states to devest from south african investments because of apartheid. the state pension and university fund sold more than $11 billion worth of securities as a result. >>> none of this was easy. mandela's activism took him from life in prison to leader of his nation. in 1944, he was 26 years old when he co-founded african national congress. after a 1960 ma
congresswoman lee removed him from the list in 2008 a month before mr. mandela turned 90. live in oak labd, stephanie chuang, nbc bay area news. >> thank you. >>> willie brown, former mayor of san francisco met mandela at the rally in oakland and his meeting with mandela is a treasured memory. brown says this photo of the meeting is one of his favorites. >> mr. mandela inspired me as i suspect he has inspired many people to do what you think is the right thing to do. maybe...
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then mr. mandela i'd like you to meet the congressman from california. he does this double take and hit me with a moment i will never forget. we have heard much from you. you gave us hope. you kept us alive. he hugged me and i broke down and cried. >> congresswoman waters can you remember what he said? >> we had been working to break down apartheid, there when it was lifted anc was thought of as terrorist organization. i met others, on and on and on but i really wanted to meet nelson mandela, didn't get a chance to do it until he came to los angeles. as you know we organized another huge event to welcome him to this country. we filled up the coliseum, lit candles. all of the movie stars in hollywood showed up. all of the community showed up all over southern california. when he walked out on stage with winnie mandela, the crowd exploded. i met him when i first got off the airplane. i was had with the then mayor tom bradley. of course, when i looked at him and he was such a pleasant man, he had a smile on his face. he embraced me. he embraced the mayor. w
then mr. mandela i'd like you to meet the congressman from california. he does this double take and hit me with a moment i will never forget. we have heard much from you. you gave us hope. you kept us alive. he hugged me and i broke down and cried. >> congresswoman waters can you remember what he said? >> we had been working to break down apartheid, there when it was lifted anc was thought of as terrorist organization. i met others, on and on and on but i really wanted to meet...
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mr. mandela was tired, and he was wearing an overcoat. first, he insisted on working the room in south africa house and speaking to everyone there. and then he went outside and enthralled the young, if rather soaked, audience who had been listening to the music. at that point, his minders were pretty keen to move him along and get him to his bed, which he clearly needed. but no -- the coat came off and he came back up the stairs in south africa house and worked the room again. we came face to face for a second time. he looked at me and said, "we talked earlier", and i said, "yes we did, mr mandela, it was an honor to meet you and we a very nice chat." "oh good," he said, "i will move on, but i did not want you to think i had been rude." that is the difference, is it not? that was a man who, when he needed votes, could weigh them in quantities that we practicing politicians can only dream of, yet when he was beyond the need for votes he still conducted himself with that extra special magic ingredient that separated him out, like the wheat
mr. mandela was tired, and he was wearing an overcoat. first, he insisted on working the room in south africa house and speaking to everyone there. and then he went outside and enthralled the young, if rather soaked, audience who had been listening to the music. at that point, his minders were pretty keen to move him along and get him to his bed, which he clearly needed. but no -- the coat came off and he came back up the stairs in south africa house and worked the room again. we came face to...
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mr. mandela, became a symbol of hope around. world for his life long struggle against the apartheid system of racial segregation in his country. he spent 27 years in prison for defying that system. after his release he sought not revenge but reconciliation. mr. mandela went on to push for one of the most progressive constitutions on planet and became south africa's first democrat exly elected black president. he chronicled end of apartheid and mandela's election and serving as african correspondent for the bbc. tom, thanks for joining us today with your thoughts. and what were they when you first got the news that mandela pass ad way? >> i had a lot of emotions both at a personal level and a professional one. i had the same feelings that everyone had, this was absolute titan of the global stage whose like we'll probably never see in our lifetimes again. these sort of men only only come around everyone hundred years or some i have memories when i met him during the time i was in south africa, particularly of his personal warmth a
mr. mandela, became a symbol of hope around. world for his life long struggle against the apartheid system of racial segregation in his country. he spent 27 years in prison for defying that system. after his release he sought not revenge but reconciliation. mr. mandela went on to push for one of the most progressive constitutions on planet and became south africa's first democrat exly elected black president. he chronicled end of apartheid and mandela's election and serving as african...
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we're just reminded what an extraordinary and inspiring man mr. mandela was. >> david cameron said he was a hero of our time. >>> no one claiming responsibility yet for killing an american teacher in libya. someone shot and killed ronnie smith as he was jogging near the american consulate in benghazi. smith taught chemistry at an international school there. he was killed five days after an al qaeda group called on libyans to attack american interests to avenge u.s. special forces taking an al qaeda suspect in tr tripoli in october. >>> this gym teacher in loudoun county will not be in school today. gregory winchin is on leave. a staffer at cedar lane he wi elementary in ashburn thought he was acting strange during class yesterday. deputies arrested him for alcohol possession on school property and driving u the influen influence. students were never in danger. >>> the loudoun county sheriff's department is look iing for the person responsible for a reported burglary and assault. police say it happened in the university station area of ashburn arou
we're just reminded what an extraordinary and inspiring man mr. mandela was. >> david cameron said he was a hero of our time. >>> no one claiming responsibility yet for killing an american teacher in libya. someone shot and killed ronnie smith as he was jogging near the american consulate in benghazi. smith taught chemistry at an international school there. he was killed five days after an al qaeda group called on libyans to attack american interests to avenge u.s. special forces...
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as you saw, it's fitting the service is being held at fnmb stadium, mr. mandela made his final public appearance at the 2010 world cup. tuesday, december 10th. welcome back to "morning joe." reverend article sharpton, harold ford jr. and for bloomberg, juliana goldman. we'll get to the table in just a moment, but first we want to turn to nbc's tracie potts live in south africa. tracie? >> reporter: mika, good morning from pretoria. after today, the focus is going to shift here. that big building behind me referred to as the union buildings. this is the center of government, of administration for south africa, and it's where nelson mandela will lie in state for the next three days. but today, of course, the focus was on that stadium near soweto. the public memorial where we're told as many as 100,000 people packed this stadium in the rain. a lot of them waited as many as eight hours for the doors to open. the highlight so far has been the speech by president president obama where he talked about nelson mandela as a giant of history, he talked about some of
as you saw, it's fitting the service is being held at fnmb stadium, mr. mandela made his final public appearance at the 2010 world cup. tuesday, december 10th. welcome back to "morning joe." reverend article sharpton, harold ford jr. and for bloomberg, juliana goldman. we'll get to the table in just a moment, but first we want to turn to nbc's tracie potts live in south africa. tracie? >> reporter: mika, good morning from pretoria. after today, the focus is going to shift here....
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mr. president, thanks very much for sharing some thoughts on this special day. >> i'm glad to do it, wolf. >> what was it like the first time you met nelson mandela? >> well, i was excited. i felt almost like i was 20 years old again. it was at the democratic convention in new york. i was about to be nominated for president and former mayor david dinkins, a long-time supporter of mandela's, brought him up to our room where he met with hillary, chelsea and me. we hit it off right away. he was there really because he was an incredibly loyal person to anyone who supported him and the anc during his long imprisonment and democrats had supported sanctions on south africa so he wanted to be there, he wanted to be at our convention. he later came to the inauguration. and then hillary and vice president gore led a delegation to his inauguration in '94 and just five months later, he came to the united states on a state visit. that's when we really started becoming friends and i had the honor of wo
mr. president, thanks very much for sharing some thoughts on this special day. >> i'm glad to do it, wolf. >> what was it like the first time you met nelson mandela? >> well, i was excited. i felt almost like i was 20 years old again. it was at the democratic convention in new york. i was about to be nominated for president and former mayor david dinkins, a long-time supporter of mandela's, brought him up to our room where he met with hillary, chelsea and me. we hit it off...
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let's roll video of mr. mandela. he was africa's former president who helped break the country system of racial discrimination. he died this evening, age 95. south african president jacob zuma announced the death at a somber news conference. people are coming here to the south african embassy to pay tribute to mandela. we are going to hear from a 12-year-old girl. she walked here with her father and here is what she had to say. >> i want to pray for his family, him and all the people that are suffering for his loss. i like to say thank you for him and everything he did for us. >> reporter: back out here live, you can see the south african embassy here, the statue and there is a lot of media here. we are in very tight quarters, which is why my voice is lowered. a lot of folks from the local stations, you have international media showing you how nelson mandela touched lives for civil rights around the world. fellow south africans, you know, nelson mandela brought them together as well. he had been in and out of the hos
let's roll video of mr. mandela. he was africa's former president who helped break the country system of racial discrimination. he died this evening, age 95. south african president jacob zuma announced the death at a somber news conference. people are coming here to the south african embassy to pay tribute to mandela. we are going to hear from a 12-year-old girl. she walked here with her father and here is what she had to say. >> i want to pray for his family, him and all the people that...
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. >> and you first met mr. mandela right after being released from jail. you were in a room alone with him. tell me about that moment. you're young, 20 and impressionable and looking for your place and 20 years later you would be the ambassador for south africa. what happened in that room? >> really pretty incredible to me and hilarious in retrospect. this was immediately after the ticker tape parade we had and i escorted him into city hall, and next i knew we were alone. i discovered in moments of silence, had a weightiness to him. i was probably staring at him awe struck for ten minutes then a voice said, young man, may i trouble you for a glass of water. he said it with a little slight i am patience and it became clear he probably asked several times but i was so dumb struck by him that my feet were rooted. of course, i hurried and got him water and never ever had such pleasure in providing service to another human being. i just wished i could have done more in his service and for his cause. >> we hear people say that nelson mandela is the moral compass
. >> and you first met mr. mandela right after being released from jail. you were in a room alone with him. tell me about that moment. you're young, 20 and impressionable and looking for your place and 20 years later you would be the ambassador for south africa. what happened in that room? >> really pretty incredible to me and hilarious in retrospect. this was immediately after the ticker tape parade we had and i escorted him into city hall, and next i knew we were alone. i...
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mandela. mr. obama often noted privately and publicly that his sacrifices would never compare to mr. mandela's. aide to mr. obama said he was uncomfortable when people drew parallels between them as often as they did. this is from "the new york time times", not "the washington post." i apologize. how fair are those comparisons? they are inevitable and now we're going to continue to read and hear more about them over the next few days and weeks. how fair are they? >> it depends on which mr. mandela you're talking about. >> and which mr. obama you're talking about. >> one of the things that we talk about is mr. mandela as a tremendous humanitarian leader and so on. and he really was. but he was also a politician. and he also had to hold together a coalition, find the way to steer his country forward as the first black representative in that democratically elected government. in that way, they do have a great deal in common. you do see a very nervous and frightened group of white south africans wonde
mandela. mr. obama often noted privately and publicly that his sacrifices would never compare to mr. mandela's. aide to mr. obama said he was uncomfortable when people drew parallels between them as often as they did. this is from "the new york time times", not "the washington post." i apologize. how fair are those comparisons? they are inevitable and now we're going to continue to read and hear more about them over the next few days and weeks. how fair are they? >> it...